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What do the Big Water Damage Companies do that the little ones don’t?

I’m in the fortunate position where I’ve personally worked with literally hundreds of Water Damage companies, small and large. I’m also always getting calls for advice as to what to do to increase the size of my client’s companies.

Out of all of the possible answers to this,  I’ve narrowed it down to some of the top characteristics I’ve seen from the most successful companies I’ve worked with as compared to the most unsuccessful:


They are hustlers. Sales and marketing make up a large percentage of their thoughts and conversations. They know to expand a business you have to sell and market like crazy. They come to work thinking about how to sell more. They know there is no such thing as luck in business.  They create their own luck.


They are survivors. They persist through anything. There is no such thing as a “bad economy” or a “slow season” to them, they see that as a market opportunity to get more business while everyone else is complaining about it and dying out. When things get slow, they kick up their advertising and their networking to compensate for it, not complain. They do something about it.  Then when the season picks up, they own even more of the market share.


They are everywhere. Billboards, painted vans, internet marketing, lead generation, Mr. Coupon, Valupack, networking plumbers, property mangers and insurance companies. They don’t think with just getting that one call (small think), they think with a whole community, they want everyone to know who they are (big think).  They think way beyond getting “one call”.


They are not stupid with their ad budgets. I know a guy who spent $10k on a postcard campaign that got him one phone call – no jobs. He went bankrupt 2 months later. I know another guy who spends $300k+ per year for radio, he is one of the most well-known in his city. I have clients that make over 50% of their gross income from our service. They spend a lot of money on advertising and marketing, but it’s not stupid.  It all gets them an ROI. They know how much a marketing campaign is making them.  They don’t spend money on things that don’t get a return.  They spend lots of money on many different marketing campaigns…that make them money and drive phone calls.


They are great business men. It’s pretty simple actually: They’re organized, they track profits and losses, track calls and where they come from, they watch for high profit jobs & high phone call volume areas, then market more to those areas, they invest in the future of their company, they hire good/pleasant employees that work hard and don’t turn-off their customers and vendors with bad attitudes.  They are not fly-by-the-seat-of-your-pants types.


They are positive people. They think things will work 1st, then they get it to work. They don’t think that things won’t work first and then try it (just to prove they right that it didn’t work). I can tell right away one of these types when they call my company. They start off saying something like, “I saw your ad, I know it doesn’t work, but I wanted to hear what you have to say anyway.” They’ve already decided it won’t work, so of course it won’t.  You don’t meet big business owners with mindsets like that.  My most successful clients say things like, “I’m a believer, but it’s so hard to find a good company to work with”  or  “It’s not working yet, but we’ll figure it out eventually.” See, very different mindset. These guys have already decided that it will work…and then do the work to make it happen.  They decide and persist.


Think like a big company, become one of them. Think small, stay small.



Dan York, Founder and CEO

Stellar-eMarketing, Inc.

How to Get More Water Damage Jobs? ( or how not to go bankrupt!)

We’re asked this question all the time. Working with Water Damage Companies all over the world, we certainly have an opinion about it, and a good one at that.

Here’s the Answer:

Do every marketing outlet you can find that works, and if it works, persist at it – don’t quit.  

Some people don’t believe me when I say this. Maybe it’s too simple to believe or they want to think there is some “secret” that the big companies know. But I’ve worked with Mom and Pop shops doing $250k per year and the Goliaths of the industry making 10’s of Millions per year. That’s it. There is no big secret. 

I’ve watched a lot of bankrupted Water Damage Companies in the last 5 years. You learn a lot by watching them.

Here is why most Water Damage Companies aren’t winning like they should be (or are bankrupt):  

  1. They Rely on one or two forms of marketing only. 
  2. They give up too early on any marketing program they try. 
  3. When $ gets tough, they stop marketing which puts the final nail in the coffin of their company. 


Let’s look into these a bit more.

1. They Rely on one or two forms of marketing. All you have to do is look at the big guys (local or franchises) . They are everywhere – billboards, phone books, tons of internet marketing, lead generation, bright vans, flyers in newspapers, postcards, Plumbers refer them, you name it. Small guys try to find “one good thing”.  Maybe you will for a while, but it never lasts and it certainly doesn’t build a successful company. And when you go into a slump, it usually ends you. Big, successful, lasting companies are doing minimally 6 major forms of marketing or advertising. 

2. They give up too early on any marketing program they try. This is so common. I can’t tell you how many Water Damage Company owners I’ve talked to that say “I tried that, it didn’t work.” No, what didn’t work was the owner of the company. He didn’t persist. He tries it for a few weeks or months and then quits because he didn’t see results yet. Marketing doesn’t work like that. Any successful business owner knows it takes persistence, long term strategies and is similar to a relay race: You must make each part of the marketing program work.

3. When the going gets tough, they stop marketing, putting the final nail in the coffin of their soon to be broke company.  You know what the big guys do when the going gets tough and business is slow? Market more…WAY more.  You know what the small guys do when the going gets tough? Cut off their marketing programs to “save money” which really costs them more money in lost revenues then they are saving through the stopping of their marketing programs. That usually finished the job on killing their revenues.


I know a guy who is wowing people. He’s only 27 and his company is already doing a couple million per year after only 2 years. Everyone thinks he is a magic man, and maybe he is. He’s client of mine. I asked him what he does. He told me that he uses my company (of course), 3 lead generation companies, is in the phone book buying ads, uses the Yellow Pages Online, works Angie’s list, has a city-wide PPC program, sends out postcards, networks plumbers, insurance agents as well as contractors and more. He grew his company faster in 1.5 years than another client of mine who took 25 years to get to the same size.

So stop wondering why you are not big enough, review these points. They are correct. The big guys know it.



Dan York, Founder and CEO

Stellar-eMarketing, Inc.

Too busy to market right now?

“I’m too busy to market right now, I have too many calls coming in as it is.”


We’re one of the oldest water damage internet marketing companies out there, we have more experience than anyone. This gives us the insight into what Water Damage Company owners do that shoots themselves in the foot, over and over.


There’s a phrase that you should know and remember, “too little too late.” That’s when it’s too late to do something about what you should’ve already done something about! With regards to getting calls coming in, a lot of owners of water damage restoration companies can be very shortsighted. Not stupid, but shortsighted, big difference there. You see, they get very busy, and in some cases, overwhelmingly busy. As a result, they get scared to do anymore marketing or just plain too busy to do any more marketing as they don’t think that they can handle the volume or they think it will always be this way, when in fact it’s a seasonal thing, etc. Then the typical scenario that occurs is this: business slows down or a slow season such as February comes around where it’s too warm for freezing pipes and there’s not any precipitation coming around yet, so then the person scrambles for the calls that aren’t there and starts to turn on every marketing form that he can think of hoping that he can get calls that quickly, when in fact he is wasting money and misses the calls from that season altogether. That is too little too late.


So, when is the ideal time to start marketing? The obvious answer is ALL THE TIME. You should be marketing when it’s busy, when it’s slow – all the time, you should never turn it off. Turning it off as I’ve said before, over and over, is the kiss of death for the front end of your business. But, let’s say you don’t keep it on all year round – the ideal time to start marketing is about 2-3 months prior to when you want the calls…at least! Any real marketing program is going to probably take around 3 months to really settle in and be effective. And by the time that you’re done with your busy season that you’re too busy to get marketing going in, that marketing program will take root and offset that slow season when you need it to, not when it’s too late.


Another point I’ll bring up on this is finance. When things are good, the calls are coming in, and you’re “too busy to turn on another marketing program”. This again, is the ideal time to get a marketing program going because the finance is there to afford it, the money is coming in. What typically happens is when people start to look at marketing, finance is starting to falter, their calls are slowing down, their income gets hurt and then they can’t even afford the marketing that they need.


I think you see the overall lesson to be learned here, keep your head in the future, predict the future, don’t be blinded by right now, take advantage of busy season when they re there to turn your future seasons to busy ones too.



Dan York

What works better for getting business? Ads or the Natural results?

It is very different driving calls into your company today than it was in 1995, or even 2008 for that matter. As we all know, practically no one uses the phone books anymore.

Two of the largest forms of internet marketing these days use either ads or the natural listings in Google. You see them all the time – the 4 ads at the top of the screen, Google Maps, and then there is what everyone uses, the “natural” listings below those ads. And of course Google is the king of the jungle of that game.

So which one works better for getting business? Ads or the Natural results?

For years, Google has reported that the ads outperform the natural results. However, in our company, we never found that to be true. We’d see a lot of clicks into a customer’s website, but not the phone calls. Plus, we’d ask people and maybe 1 out of 10 people would tell us that they use those ads. Most people don’t even look at them anymore. So the data that Google provided on this didn’t ad up, then they straight-up hide some of the data from everyone.

In 2014, Groupon – the giant online coupon provider – did a test for us all.  They shut down their website from Google, literally turned it off, to test how much of their internet traffic came from Natural results in Google. What they found was startling. They found that 60% of all traffic that Google would report as “direct” is actually organic search.  For the the full article, click here.

So what does this mean for all of us? It means that if you aren’t marketing the natural results, you’re losing out on the majority of business available for the internet. 

Where, after all, do you think the leads that the lead gen guys are selling you come from? The natural results and the pay-per-click ads.   


Dan York, Founder and CEO 


Water Damage Leads – Short-term or Long-term ones?

Should you buy short-term-pay-per lead water damage leads?  Or build your own long-term lead program?

Answer: Both

There’s the old “give a man a fish feed him for a day, teach him to fish and feed him for a lifetime saying”, this is the way leads are for the water damage business.

Companies like United Restorers, who generate water damage leads, have a great reputation for caring about their customers. They sell you leads at a certain dollar amount per phone call that comes in. This is valuable for the right-now business.  This is short-term thinking. You need this.

You also need to think long-term, that’s where we come in. We build your lead generation program, you own it and do not pay per phone call.  Will it get you calls tomorrow? No. But it will in weeks to months to forever without paying per call.

Doing one or the other is small-think, short-sighted and limited. If you are really serious about building a successful water damage company, you really need to confront that fact that you need to probably do both.  We’re two services out of many services you should probably be using in order do build a real marketing machine to get your company growing the way that it should.

What about retirement? selling the company?

What do you think the buyer would think if they asked you “where are you getting your business” and you told them only “we buy water damage leads phone calls from lead generation companies”. That isn’t that valuable to them, it is not proprietary, it can be turned off.  It is valuable to you, but looking at your future, they would see it as short-sighted.

You gotta play both games to really hit it big. I know, I’m working the ones who are hitting it big.

When should I get a new website for my water damage company?

When and why should you update your website?

It has to get done, yes. But when? How? How often? Why? Once a year? When your web guy says,”I don’t like it?” When I feel like I’m bored with it as a biz owner?

Nope, none of those.

The answer is simple – when it stops working. 

Now you have to be careful with that, though, because there are two primary reasons that your website will not generate business that you need to consider first:

1.) You are not ranking in Google, etc. At which point you need to make it rank high in Google before deciding to change your website, because no one is ever getting to your website in the first place to know whether it works or not,


2.) Your website is turning away people. NEVER assume you know how to design a website for your clients. The BEST marketing people I know, including myself, are always surprised to see what actually works. We’re always surprised at some point, even after 20+ years of doing it. We never assume. So you definitely shouldn’t either.

Now some web designers will argue, “there’s so much more than those two points above!” and they are right, there are a lot of different aspects, however, they all can be aligned to those two points.

So, if you are ranking well in Google, etc. and you STILL aren’t getting business or calls, now would be the time to discuss the design, etc. But if it is actually working…leave it alone to some degree. No one kills a successful marketing program more than what us in our company like to call “tinkerers.” They tinker and tinker, always changing something, why? Who knows, maybe they just feel like it. More successful web programs are killed by tinkerers and their whims than I would care to mention. Try not to get into that habit. If you did have something successful going on that was developing the business, and you are a sloppy tinkerer, you’ll lose what worked, not remember it, and then get lost in the many changes you’re making.  Then you won’t know what did what anymore.

Now, websites are not some kids’ art projects, they are business development tools.  This is YOUR business’s tool to get in new clients in the modern day. Your website should not be designed by, or be the brain child of an out-of-touch person who “thinks” he knows your business, or some kid straight out of college who thinks he knows how to develop business. These should be strategically and somewhat scientifically approached by someone in your niche who knows your business. Lots of income gets left on the table by using out of touch people who do not understand the niche market you exist in.


So remember, if it is working, try and let it work. If there are any tweaks you make, catalogue them, when and why you made them so you can reverse it when your calls drop off.

And don’t “tinker”… 🙂


Sincerely, Dan York

How long should I continue a marketing method to find out if works for phone calls?

With so many forms of marketing, particularly on the internet, the question arises frequently, “How long should I do something to see whether or not it works?”

This is a multi- faceted question though and cannot be answered with just one answer.

You have to examine several major points:

  1. The expertise (or not) of the person doing it.
  2. How many points on the way there are right or wrong?
  3. Is it a fad or actually a workable play?


Let’s take up #1 first.  You have to separate out the form of marketing you are doing from the person doing it. For example, lots of people say today “SEO/Pay-Per-Click doesn’t work for my business.” But they neglect to gauge the credibility or the expertise of the person doing it. Did they have any proven results from prior companies in your industry? Did they know your industry and how to attract those particular kids of clients? You first must not rule out the lack of skill or credibility from the marketing you are doing first. If it is working for someone else, it can work for you too.


Now #2. Every marketing program is a relay race. You cannot expect to win the race (phone calls coming in) unless you win the first few legs of the marketing race. You have to reach your customers (be found where they are looking), say the right things and stand out to your customers and then make sure that you are easily contactable. So you cannot rule out a form of marketing unless you have perfected all of the earlier steps of that particular form of marketing that ends up in phone calls. I have a client that does north of $1mm per year form his internet reaches alone. Why can he and not others? He persisted and perfected the earlier phases of the relay race that wins with the phone calls on the last leg.


Finally, #3.  There are new forms of marketing that show up every year now thanks to internet marketing. You have to ask yourself whether it is a fad or a real method of how your clients are going to find you? For example, the social networking site Tumblr. What? Who? Have you heard of it? Will anyone go to Tumblr to learn about a water damage restoration company? Ask your customers. Have they heard of it? How did they find out about you? Would you ever use it for that purpose?


Marketing, although elusive and requiring patience, is more about logic than luck or throwing %&#$ to the wall and seeing what sticks. Getting phone calls to come in is not magic, it isn’t luck. It’s skill, logic, patience, persistence, all applied to how your customers will find you and reach you and ultimately call you.


Good luck out there!



Dan York

Founder, Stellar-eMarkeitng, Inc.

How to Track Where Your Clients Are Calling You From

As with any business, you try and stay sharp about where you spend your ad dollars and stay ahead of the competition while not wasting money on stupid new trends right? But the more technology shows up, the harder it gets to know where they found you. Was it on Angie’s List? Google Ads? Google Local? etc. But…if you don’t find this stuff out, you’re potentially throwing money away from your marketing budget.

Add this to the fact that your new customers calling you generally won’t answer a ton of questions about how they found you. They just want to get you to their house…ASAP. So this complicates things.


There isn’t a super simple way to do it.  We’ve seen amongst our hundreds and hundreds of Water Damage Clients across the US, that the cheapest and most reliable way is fortunately not that complicated and is reasonably reliable.  And it isn’t expensive call-tracking that messes with all of your phone numbers all over the place.

This is the fastest, easiest way we’ve seen to get the info you want:

You mainly want to see if it comes from one of three major places. 1.) Websites like Angie’s List, 2.) Google Natural Listings and Maps and 3.) Google Ads.

1. Websites like Angie’s list: 

Your phone person: Hello, how did you find us?

Customer: Oh, a website.

Your phone person: Which website?

Customer: BBB.

Your phone person: Thank You~ DONE

2. The “Internet”  which is the vague catch-all answer you’ll get most of the time. 

Your phone person: How did you find out about us?

Customer: The internet.

Your phone person: Oh, ok. Do you remember where?

Customer: It was Google.

Your phone person: Ok thanks! Was it an ad you clicked on?

Customer: No it wasn’t – DONE – you know from here it was some Google Natural or map listing. Both of which should be handled by the same company service (This is part of what we do).

3. Google Ads

Your phone person: How did you find out about us?

Customer: Oh, I Googled you.

Your phone person: Good, was it an Ad? Map Listing or Natural result you clicked on?

Customer: Oh, it was one of the Ads at the top. DONE – you know it was a Google advertisement now.

The above is all about the time and patience you’ll force your new customers to confront on a phone call when they are calling about an emergency service. Those questions above should take 10 seconds. It may lack “sophisticated” technology and may require your staff ask questions rather than just be order-takers, but your marketing dollars are at risk here.

You might be missing out on a good vacation because of marketing dollars that you shouldn’t be spending because you’re not paying attention to where your calls are coming from…


Know what’s working. To do anything less than that is just plain lazy.




Dan York


Want to get a highest-ever Income year in your Water Damage company?

As I’ve said before, I get to personally speak with water damage companies all over, every week, and from all different corners of this continent. And for some companies, this last year was one of their best years ever. But for some, not so great.


Now I know a lot of guys would just attribute that to a “good year”, better weather for work, location, etc. And although these are the “obvious” factors, I don’t find any of those to be the real reason why some companies have had their highest ever year. I wanted to share with you some of the things I’ve seen from the guys who have had an amazing year this year:


1. They didn’t do the same thing over and over and expect the same results.

They embraced and confronted change. This year I had a guy call me and sign up with my service saying, “I know what you guys do doesn’t work, but I wanted to give you a shot anyways. I think referrals are the only good calls, but my partner wanted me to try you, so…” How do you think that ended up? Like hell. For him and me. We were fighting him the whole time trying to make him “successful”. I know another guy who’s been in this business for 30 years. He’s winning like crazy. Why? He confronted and embraced that this whole business has changed and he changed with it. And another water damage company I know did amazingly well in 2008 when everyone else was dying from the stock market crash. Why? He stopped using phone books just before his competitors did and took all of his marketing online before everyone else did. These guys changed when they needed to and did not become the dinosaurs of the business.


2. They weren’t looking for things to blame like the weather, competition, etc. They were looking for more ways to get calls…constantly. 

If you blame things, right away, your attention gets diverted to something you cannot control instead of looking for new ways to grow your company as in #1. Blame is a losing game for the person doing the blame, always. The winners this year didn’t blame anything. They also wasted money, hired bad people, some had divorces with their wives, didn’t make any money on some jobs, but you know what they say? They say, “Lesson learned, on to the next.” And then I know guys who blame their ex-wives, old employees, Yelp, etc. and they can go on like this for years. The end result of that game is Broke. You’re broke!


3. They got and did bigger jobs. 

Now this sounds like the “unicorn” job (it doesn’t really exist) everyone wishes they could get and the increased call volume everyone dreams of.  You know – that one commercial call that pays $150-$400k! Well, guess what, guys DO get those jobs. I hear about them all the time. But how do you get those jobs? It’s actually simple: they confronted expanding their company, they found and did more and more marketing methods, which resulted in a higher call volume which landed them that “unicorn” call. See, it’s a numbers game to some degree. They get all of those small residential calls too, but in that they are getting a higher volume of calls, they haver a higher chance of getting those occasional big jobs too.


This sums it up: A client of mine called to thank me this year for two things: 1.) Helping him to stop relying on plumbers for referrals (he hated the whole highest bidder war) and 2.) for allowing him the opportunity to “cherry pick” the best jobs during the storm season. He’d never been in that position before.


Here’s to your New Year being the best so far!




Dan York

CEO and Founder, Stellar-eMarketing, Inc.



More Google Updates! What Happens to Your Website – What Do We Do About It?

Ok, so Google has announced another set of “changes”.  So what does this mean and how does it affect your company, your website, and your phone call volume coming from the internet? And more importantly, how do we as an internet marketing company fit into all of this?


1st, understand this: These changes not only will never stop, they will get more and more frequent. It’s just the way it is. So we all have to get used to it and adapt. Even if Google somehow becomes #2 and some other company becomes #1, it will still be this way.


Ok, next. What do these changes do? Well, this one could be up for debate, but MOST of them are to make your experience on the internet better, faster, more appropriate and more convenient.  And factually Google does pretty well with all of that. Go use Yahoo, Bing, or any other company for a day or so, they do quite well at providing good search results. Some of these updates are to stop web-spammers from clogging up your internet searches with garbage. But more recently, a lot of these Google updates are to simply boost their ads up so more people use them, too. After all, Google is also in business to make money and their ads are one of their main revenue sources.


So, how do these changes affect your website and call volume?


Well, simple. Your website goes up or down in Google, your Google map rankings go up or down. And if they are down, phone calls actually can stop, period. Hence the importance of staying on top of it. There is no such things as “set it and forget it” in this business of internet marketing. It is a game of survival. And the smartest most diligent win this one. Laziness loses every time.


So what do we do about it?


Well, this is our speciality. A lot of our clients don’t actually know that when Google updates happen, that is our job, believe it or not. So two things happen with Google that we have to handle for ALL of our clients:

  1. Google surprises everyone with an update.
  2. Google give notice of an update (rare).


The handling for both is really the same, although the execution of it differs in timing.

  1. If Google surprises everyone:  We have to do a ton of observation and testing over several weeks and figure out what changed and how we handle it. It’s simple in concept really. Google says certain things, but that doesn’t mean they are what we do. If Google told everyone how to game their own system, no one would be in business here would they? Once we know what to do, we have to roll it out to our entire client base. This is very time and effort consuming.
  2. If Google gives you notice: Well, here, we actually pay very careful attention to what Google says. We take this one with a bit less of a grain of salt. They are giving notice because they are trying to change something major and it needs to happen, and what they say in these types of announcements is pretty on point. The handling for us is the same as above more or less, other than we really take into account their directions.


In short, predicting, handling, and maintaining your internet marketing program is our job, every Google update is our job. It isn’t easy, there are ups and downs, some times damage control, but that is why you hire us in the first place….right? So you don’t have to keep up with it and do it!





Dan York

Founder, Stellar-eMarketing, Inc.




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